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    Post by makem on 04/09/11, 12:24 pm

    If anyone wants cheap accomodation in Paris I suggest:

    http://www.ebookers.com/shop/home?type=hotel&hotel.type=keyword&hotel.keyword.key=paris&hotel.chkin=17%2F09%2F11&hotel.chkout=24%2F09%2F11&hotel.rooms[0].adlts=2&hotel.rooms[0].chlds=0&hotel.rooms[0].chldAge[0]=&hotel.rooms[0].chldAge[1]=&hotel.rooms[0].chldAge[2]=&hotel.rooms[0].chldAge[3]=&hotel.rooms[0].chldAge[4]=&hotel.rating=&hotel.chain=&hotel.hname=&hotel.couponCode=&search=Search&hsv.sortOrder=BUNDLE_SELL_PRICE&hsv.page=1&hsv.showDetails=true&hotel.hid=120160&hotel.hkey=120160_null_null_null_A2:0#mapAndAreaInfo

    It is withing Zone 2 so cheaper to get into the city each day.

    Book by phone, haggle about car parking charge of 12 euro per night and you can get a discount.

    My charge was 522 for 7 nights plus 10.50 per night parking. The discount when I said the parking was to expensive was 49.17 which took care of most of the parking fee. So 7 nights became 473.75.

    Obviously if you travel by another means you can still haggle about parking as they are not concerned how you get there lol.

    Maybe an idea to have a place for non china hotel info for those taking holidays in or out of the UK?

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    Re: Paris

    Post by Graham on 04/09/11, 08:12 pm

    Hi Eric,

    Not sure thats really cheap.
    We stayed at a motel in Villepinte.
    30 euro a night, free parking.
    10 minute bus ride to the station, and right into Paris within 20 mins.

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    Re: Paris

    Post by makem on 04/09/11, 08:29 pm

    Graham wrote:Hi Eric,

    Not sure thats really cheap.
    We stayed at a motel in Villepinte.
    30 euro a night, free parking.
    10 minute bus ride to the station, and right into Paris within 20 mins.

    Graham

    Do you or your partner speak French?

    We don't, so I wanted to get within Zone 2 of Paris to make the journies in as cheap and as quick as possible. I din't fancy spending time trying to find where buses are and making sure we got there and back ok.

    This hotel is a 10 min walk from the train straight into Paris centre.

    What was the name of the motel group?
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    Re: Paris

    Post by Beijing2008 on 11/09/11, 11:39 am

    Ebookers isn't cheap,you also can contact the hotel straight away, and get a bargain.Most hotels have English speaking employees.
    Don't you have in the UK websites with special deals ?
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    Re: Paris

    Post by makem on 11/09/11, 02:51 pm

    Beijing2008 wrote:Ebookers isn't cheap,you also can contact the hotel straight away, and get a bargain.Most hotels have English speaking employees.
    Don't you have in the UK websites with special deals ?

    Ok:

    eBookers = 473

    Hotel email = (no VAT)

    24-09-11 44.25 EUR
    25-09-11 44.25 EUR
    26-09-11 78.75 EUR
    27-09-11 78.75 EUR
    28-09-11 78.75 EUR
    29-09-11 78.75 EUR
    30-09-11 44.25 EUR

    Hotel web site = 570 euro inc VAT = 490

    http://webbooking.louvre-hotels.fr/KY/default.aspx?t=d1ca5f697fb16&s=KY&l=en-GB#FRA22324

    If you can find me a hotel or a motel within zone 1 or 2 of Paris which is close to the metro (no train and/or bus journey to metro), please let me know and I will change accomodation.

    Yes we have special deals but they usually will have some drawback, hence 'special'. I prefer to pay a little more and get exactly what I want.
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    Re: Paris

    Post by Beijing2008 on 11/09/11, 03:51 pm

    is breakfast included?Watch out, they many times give a pp price....


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    Post by makem on 11/09/11, 05:16 pm

    Beijing2008 wrote:is breakfast included?Watch out, they many times give a pp price....



    No b/fast.

    Not a pp charge.

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    Re: Paris

    Post by Graham on 11/09/11, 05:53 pm

    makem wrote:
    Graham wrote:Hi Eric,

    Not sure thats really cheap.
    We stayed at a motel in Villepinte.
    30 euro a night, free parking.
    10 minute bus ride to the station, and right into Paris within 20 mins.

    Graham

    Do you or your partner speak French?

    We don't, so I wanted to get within Zone 2 of Paris to make the journies in as cheap and as quick as possible. I din't fancy spending time trying to find where buses are and making sure we got there and back ok.

    This hotel is a 10 min walk from the train straight into Paris centre.

    What was the name of the motel group?
    .
    Hi Eric,
    Neither of us speak any French apart from "Hello"

    Villepinte is so easy,
    It is on the CDG Airport to Paris City center line.
    There is nothing to ask.
    We just couldn't afford to stay in or close to the airport or actually in the Paris city area.
    Any way, horses for courses.
    The hotal group was Premier Classe Villepinte, free internet, big Carrefour across the road. Chinese restraunt 10 minute walk away.
    Not the best hotel / Motel, but for 30 euro a night it was expected.
    We just try to lookout for some bargain, but not dumpy type places.

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    Re: Paris

    Post by Beijing2008 on 11/09/11, 06:49 pm

    didn't you go to;Stade de France and Parc Astrix.?? Very Happy
    Premire Classe Paris Est - Rosny sous Bois
    2 van 5 Aantal sterren
    3 rue de Lisbonne
    Rosny-sous-bois, 93561
    VS en Canada: 800- 276- 7415Europe: 00- 800- 1610- 1620
    56,87 EUR
    http://travel.hotels-and-discounts.com/hotel/propertydetails/227824/MAPS?isHRN=true&cid=59562&travelDetail=[20110924-5]2
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    Post by makem on 11/09/11, 07:40 pm

    Beijing2008 wrote:didn't you go to;Stade de France and Parc Astrix.?? Very Happy
    Premire Classe Paris Est - Rosny sous Bois
    2 van 5 Aantal sterren
    3 rue de Lisbonne
    Rosny-sous-bois, 93561
    VS en Canada: 800- 276- 7415Europe: 00- 800- 1610- 1620
    56,87 EUR
    http://travel.hotels-and-discounts.com/hotel/propertydetails/227824/MAPS?isHRN=true&cid=59562&travelDetail=[20110924-5]2

    Good try Ton Smile

    There is a McDonalds over the road and a golf course quite close. The nearest train is in zone 3 and some 25 mins walk away Smile (0.67 mile @ 2mph lol )
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    Re: Paris

    Post by makem on 28/09/11, 08:23 pm

    Just a followup on the Paris accomodation.

    I still say the Kyriad hotel is cheap. It is 3 star class although only 2 star. Is clean and has helpful English speaking staff.

    We have stayed there for 4 days so far. It is within 3 minutes walk of many asian and piza food shops, 8 mins to the Pierre et Mari Curie Metro station which takes you straight into the city centre on one train. The best way for tickets is a 10 ticket carne we have found.

    10 minutes walk in the other direction is a monster China Town with many very large supermarkets and chinese food is everywhere.

    All in all I have found this hotel location is perfect for visiting every part of Paris one one carne ticket as it is within zone 2. Four tickets is enough for a day out for two people if you want to visit two areas eg the Tower, Louvre and 'The Door' to Paris as Han calls it.



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    Post by handyal on 29/09/11, 06:01 pm

    Profitez de votre voyage Cool
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    Post by Beijing2008 on 29/09/11, 06:07 pm

    Beaucoup de plaisir Paris et avec rencontrer les Francais[es] Wink On ne dit pas le Tower, mais Le Tour Eiffel.The door to Paris , I think she means L' Arc de Triomphe? A disaster to drive there yourself.
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    Re: Paris

    Post by makem on 03/10/11, 12:40 pm

    Whatever hotel you book in France ffs don't book this one!

    http://www.hotelformule1.com/gb/home/index.shtml

    We booked it online when in Paris for a one night stop in Clais. Intenteion was to do a bit of shopping in Calais and Belgium before the ferry.

    When we arrived at F1 there was a group of young lads sitting outside the entrance door chatting. I approached the main door which I found to be locked. There was clothing hanging on window sills outside some of the rooms, to dry. I asked how to enter the hotel and was told that reception would be back at 5pm - it was then 11am!

    I said we had booked a room online so how could we get in? We were told that if you had a credit card you could put it in the machine in the door and book a room that way. The door would then open to let you in.

    The hotel was obviously a 'backpackers' or the lowest cost in France, hotel with reception available only at certain times. The cost was 34 euro per night per room. Each room had a small 'quick wash' sink and I forget if it had a toilet but there was a communal shower room. maybe the toilet facility was also communal! There was free parking.

    We drove to the nearest Kyriad hotel which was 100 yards away, paid 60 euro and lost the 34 euro we had paid F1, but were much happier with the facilities. Parking was also free. Both hotels were close to the local hypermarket.

    http://www.motel-one.com/uk/motel-one-group/facts-figures.html

    http://www.berlin30.com/

    They are ones I have come across. Maybe Ton can advise on Holland.

    I had considered using these hotels on our next tour of the EU next year, but now would not go near them. I think there is also on called Camponile.

    I would appreciate any comment on 'cheap' but reasonable quality (toilet, shower in room), in the EU, in particular, France, Holland and Germany, from members who have actually visited them.
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    Post by Beijing2008 on 03/10/11, 04:10 pm

    F1 is a backpacker hotel...And you didn't realise the French also have Siesta Rolling Eyes
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    Post by handyal on 03/10/11, 04:37 pm

    Why not just confirm a booking has 'en-suite'.

    In French the term "en-suite" literally means "a following", in this case referring to the bathroom being part of the bedroom to which it is attached.

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    Post by makem on 03/10/11, 05:50 pm

    Yes, I am aware that the French have a siesta but not that the hotel is abandoned!

    I was aware of the primative washing facilities but was happy to 'rough it' for the last night. I was not happy to stay in an unsupervised hotel which I could not know until arrival.

    I am wondering which hotel chain Graham stayed at when near Paris.

    BTW whilst at the Paris Kyriad they had 3 coaches turn up each with 50 onboard. One was from Norway, having traveled 3 days to get there with just 1 driver. The hotel was always full whilst we were there.

    Yes Ton, Han knew the correct name for the 'door' but referred to it as such, rather than use the mandarin. Did you know French for Chinese is 'Chin'? So we were told by the proprietor in broken English in a French 'pub' in the 'sticks'.

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    Post by Graham on 04/10/11, 05:55 am

    makem wrote:Yes, I am aware that the French have a siesta but not that the hotel is abandoned!

    I was aware of the primative washing facilities but was happy to 'rough it' for the last night. I was not happy to stay in an unsupervised hotel which I could not know until arrival.

    I am wondering which hotel chain Graham stayed at when near Paris.

    BTW whilst at the Paris Kyriad they had 3 coaches turn up each with 50 onboard. One was from Norway, having traveled 3 days to get there with just 1 driver. The hotel was always full whilst we were there.

    Yes Ton, Han knew the correct name for the 'door' but referred to it as such, rather than use the mandarin. Did you know French for Chinese is 'Chin'? So we were told by the proprietor in broken English in a French 'pub' in the 'sticks'.
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    See my post 8 further up.

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    Post by makem on 04/10/11, 09:58 am

    Graham wrote:
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    See my post 8 further up.

    Weifang Graham

    Cheers Graham, I missed that post.

    I just checked their web site:

    http://www.premiereclasse.com/en/services/rooms.aspx

    It appears impressive for the price.

    Can you tell us what your experience was?

    Fully manned reception, breakfast facility etc. I see the rooms have showers and toilets.
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    Post by Derek on 05/10/11, 09:10 pm

    Hi Eric

    F1 (Formula 1) are part of the Accor group chain, which includes 18 different hotel names, for example Etap - Ibis - Novotel - Sofitel - Obis and so on.
    F1 was set up for travellers moving from one place to another, who found they just need to put their heads down for a few hours sleep, then on their way again. They are basic rooms with no en-suite facitities.
    For a 2 / 3 days when travelling I find the Ibis or Novotel hotels meets my needs, the room layouts are the same worldwide.

    If you make a booking on-line and give your credit card, the Accor group usually give you a pin number, which you use to gain entry at the hotel and your room, or you use your credit card when you arrive at the hotel and also to enter your room. It's quite a simple and a good system with minimun of hassle. You can arrive and depart at any time during the day or night and not see a person.

    So no need to have staff there 24 hours.

    Derk

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    Re: Paris

    Post by Graham on 06/10/11, 05:20 am

    makem wrote:
    Graham wrote:
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    See my post 8 further up.

    Weifang Graham

    Cheers Graham,
    I missed that post.
    I just checked their web site:
    http://www.premiereclasse.com/en/services/rooms.aspx
    It appears impressive for the price.
    Can you tell us what your experience was?
    Fully manned reception, breakfast facility etc. I see the rooms have showers and toilets.
    .
    Hi,
    They are OK for 1 or 2 nights, I wouldn't want a week there.
    The area isn't the best in Paris, but saying that, that can be said for a lot of Paris now.
    Seems to have a fair African contingent in and around Villipinte.
    Good large supermarket over the road, just 2-3 minutes away.
    Chinese restaraunt about 7 minutes walk.
    The bus stops outside, so can get easy bus to Paris central, or to Villipinte train station, which is the same line from CdG airport.
    The room was on par with the price.
    Just clean enough, could be a lot better though.
    The rooms have their own showers and toilets.
    The doors are secure.
    The windows all have pull down metal blinds, and locking windows, so also looks secure.
    The rooms have a double bed, with a single bunk uptop.
    The reception is manned from 8am to about 8pm.
    Free internet as far as I can remember.
    It was dead cheap, that was the only reason we booked it.
    I would use it again, but as I say, only for 1 or 2 nights.

    Weifang G. sunny


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