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    Martin147
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    Obtaning a CNI in Scotland

    Post by Martin147 on 27/03/12, 07:01 am

    HI All,
    I am living in Scotland and will be arranging to get my CNI in a couple of weeks as I am planning to get married in Hangzhou around September or October, could anyone clarify please the process of obtaining a CNI in Scotland. The information that I have at present is that even though I am divorced I can still submit a notice as if I was getting married in Scotland along with my Divorce documents and a fee to my local Registrar office, then after 15 days the CNI will be issued to me. Once I receive the CNI I will be required to get it Notarized and then legalized by the FCO and Chinese Embassy in the UK.

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    Re: Obtaning a CNI in Scotland

    Post by davidmckendrick on 27/03/12, 09:58 am

    I was divorced when I applied for my CNI in Scotland. I popped in to my local Registrars office and explained that I wanted to get married in China in September 2007. The registrar explained that the CNI is valid for three months so she counted back from the proposed marriage date to the date when she should issue it, then a further 21 days because they still have to wait 21 days between your application and issuing the CNI. (Calling the Banns).
    After the CNI was issued I took it to be notarised by a solicitor in Scotland. You must also take your passport to prove who you are. Then send it to the Foreign Office in England to be legalised - this is now done at an Office in Milton Keynes and can be done by post. Then it is legalised again by the Chinese Consulate in Edinburgh. Take a photocopy of the CNI after it has been legalised in Milton Keynes because the Chinese Consulate keep the copy. The legalisation at the Chinese Consulate takes about 10 days. After the Chinese Consulate legalise it it is valid for 6 months despite what the Scottish Registrar said.
    I think the Chinese Consulate in Edinburgh still insist on it being handed in and do not accept postal applications. The same with your Chinese visa. You can download the applications for legalisation and for your visa from the Chinese Consulate's website. There is no visa application centre in Scotland so you still have to apply to the Consulate in Edinburgh for your Chinese visa unlike England. The information about the British Foreign Office on the Chinese Consulate's website is out of date and documents are no longer legalised at the Foreign Office in London and must be submitted to Milton Keynes.
    I think it still takes a week for the Consulate to issue your Chinese visa. While it cannot be done by post you do not have to submit the documents to be legalised and visa application yourself as this can be done by an agent (for a fee) or by a friend. You need an invitation letter from your fiancee OR a hotel reservation but not both.
    You do not need to have a medical before marrying in China.
    After you've read all the links get back to me if you have any other questions...

    http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/what-we-do/services-we-deliver/legal-services/Legalisation/
    http://edinburgh.china-consulate.org/eng/rz/t214052.htm
    http://edinburgh.china-consulate.org/eng/rz/t214044.htm
    http://edinburgh.china-consulate.org/eng/rz/t214056.htm
    http://edinburgh.china-consulate.org/eng/zgqz/
    http://edinburgh.china-consulate.org/eng/bgxz/
    http://edinburgh.china-consulate.org/eng/zgqz/t213894.htm
    http://edinburgh.china-consulate.org/eng/zgqz/t892861.htm
    http://edinburgh.china-consulate.org/eng/zgqz/t228690.htm
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    Re: Obtaning a CNI in Scotland

    Post by Martin147 on 27/03/12, 12:00 pm

    Thanks David, I really appreciate the help. Once I have had an opportunity to look through it all I will see if there is anything else.
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    Re: Obtaning a CNI in Scotland

    Post by handyal on 27/03/12, 04:22 pm

    Hi Martin,
    You haven't read our page 'Marriage to a Chinese Citizen' have you?
    http://nanninginfosite.editboard.com/t1896-uk-information-marriage-to-a-chinese-citizen

    A CNI can be obtained from your local registrar or from a Notary - not both.

    Because you have been previously married a CNI from the registrar is no good because you cannot add or include the details of your divorce on it. The registrar method is only of use to those that are single, never married.

    From province to province in China the regulations for marriage can be different, or what is accepted one day, isn't accepted the next day.

    Follow the guidance we give, in the link I provided to make sure your documents will be accepted in any province.

    We have a blank CNI posted on that link. It has been used many times without any problems, so I advise you copy that one and draw up your own CNI.
    Take it to a Notary to get it notorised.
    Your CNI and your Decree Absolute must then be legalised by the FCO and the Chinese Embassy.

    You can use China Visa Direct to get this completed for yourself.

    The Chinese Embassy website gives misleading and innacurate information for marriage in China. Follow our instructions. Those married members on here are the proof our guidance works.

    Read through our link and repost any questions again Mark.
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    Re: Obtaning a CNI in Scotland

    Post by Martin147 on 27/03/12, 06:21 pm

    Thanks Alan,
    I actually have read the 'marriage to a Chinese citizen' page and found it very informative but what was confusing me is that I also read the official Scottish Registrar page on obtaining a CNI and it actually reads (Quote)"You should complete a marriage notice form, M10 (56 Kb PDF), and submit it with your birth certificate and, if you have been married before, your divorce decree plus the 30 fee to the registrar. The registrar will then be able to issue the CONI 15 days after submission of the marriage notice and fee"
    To be honest having to use the Notary will make things much easier for me, I have already copied the CNI form and will certainly use China Visa Direct whom I am very familiar with as I have used them for my Visas over the years.
    I again appreciate the guidance from both you and David and as I have already mentioned the 'marriage to a Chinese citizen' page is excellent.
    Martin

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