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    ILR - when to apply & when received.

    Post by makem on 03/09/12, 12:03 pm

    I have been told that a Chinese wife entered the UK on to the UK on 10/07/2010 and was granted her ILR on 18/06/12, the card being forwarded at a later date.

    I was under the impression an application could be made within 28 day of the end of a 2 year period starting on entry to the UK. That means in the above case an application could be made on 11/06/2012 if I am not mistaken.

    That being so, ILR was granted about 7 days from the date of submission. That is very quick considering biometrics must be taken within that period. I also understand that an interview was necessary and this took place on 18/06/2012.

    Han entered the UK on 2/07/2010 and applied for her ILR on 28/07/12. She was asked by letter dated 21/08/2012, to have her biometrics taken within 15 days of that date. They were taken on 28/07/2012, being the first possible day due to closure of the post office. We now await a reply from the UKBA.

    I was unaware interviews were required, has anyone else experienced this?

    The time period of one week seems wrong as we paid 80 to use the checking service which is supposed to make things a little quicker because the UKBA Officer does not need to verify and copy documents.

    Four weeks elapsed between application and biometric request so I thought that was quite quick having been told at the checking office that the UKBA were saying maybe 6 months were needed. I appreciate waiting times will vary.

    I would like to hear how others fared in the ILR process and especially if interviews were necessary.
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    Post by MadGee on 03/09/12, 01:13 pm

    A friend of mine married a Thai about 3 years ago in the UK and an interview was conducted in their home.
    The concern was regarding their accommodation as four people were registered with the local council as living at their address which only had one bedroom.

    Interviews are only required if the UKBA suspect something is untoward or they require further information.

    Interviews/Home visits

    When deciding whether an office interview or a home visit is justified, it is important to have clearly in focus what further information is required and how that information would be relevant to resolving the application. Caseworkers should consider an interview in the following circumstances:

    - where a marriage of convenience was suspected previously but there was insufficient evidence to justify refusal at that stage;
    - where the applicant had previously been refused leave to enter or remain;
    - where the applicant has married, within a short space of time, a person with whom he had no substantial prior acquaintance;
    - where information has come to light that the couple are no longer living together;
    - where the only evidence of the subsisting marriage comes from the applicant seeking settlement;
    - where a section 24 (S24) report has been submitted by the Registrar.

    http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/IDIs/idischapter8/section1/section1.pdf?view=Binary
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    Post by makem on 03/09/12, 02:55 pm

    I doubt that would be the case of the person I quoted. However, maybe I can find out.

    Thanks m8
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    Post by handyal on 03/09/12, 04:28 pm

    Your the first on the Forum to apply under the new Biometrics system Eric, as far as I'm aware.

    Never heard of any interviews before though, unless there is some discrepancy that needs to be cleared up.

    We were told 6 months (non Biometric), but it only took 6 weeks to get ILR.
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    Post by makem on 03/09/12, 04:36 pm

    handyal wrote:Your the first on the Forum to apply under the new Biometrics system Eric, as far as I'm aware.

    Never heard of any interviews before though, unless there is some discrepancy that needs to be cleared up.

    We were told 6 months (non Biometric), but it only took 6 weeks to get ILR.

    ONE week though??

    Seems impossible.

    Yes, I was wrong. In the case I quoted biometrics would not have been necessary.

    Or was I wrong? Han applied before the deadline date (only a week or so after the person above) and she had to do biometrics. (actually 18 days)
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    Post by davidmckendrick on 03/09/12, 05:45 pm

    You can apply for ILR over the counter if you are prepared to pay so one week doesn't sound unreasonable. maybe they have caught up with the backlog since they made it more difficult to apply for the Settlement visa and applications have been reduced?

    Mei applied for ILR at the end of October and got it on 15th January. (Allowing for holidays over Christmas and New Year).
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    Post by makem on 14/09/12, 05:15 pm

    After the data for a BRP is taken if the card is not received withing 10 days you must contact the UKBA Delivery Dept. But that is for residents etc, not for ILR.

    However, me being me, I decided, as more than 10 days had elapsed to see if I could find out anything. So, I pointed out we had waited 10 days, were worried the BRP may have been lost so please check for us.

    This is their reply:

    Thank you for your enquiry.
    Please be advised we cannot assist you as this is not a delivery enquiry
    However, we are aware that at present the UKBA is experiencing high volumes of applications, resulting in some delays.
    The UKBA are working to resolve the backlog & you should be updated in due course.
    The UKBA are unable to provide progress reports on applications submitted within the last six months.
    If you have submitted your application more than six months ago, you should re-direct your enquiry to the Immigration Enquiry Bureau on 0870 606 7766.
    Please do not reply to this email.
    Thank you

    BRP Management Unit

    So the max wait is still 6 months until you can receive or even ask! Sad
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    Post by makem on 06/11/12, 10:32 am

    Han received a letter from the UKBA today. It was a brown A4 envelope and did not need to be signed for. I gave it to her to open.

    Next thing she is upset saying, "No visa!, where is my visa?"

    I read the letter which in fact says she has been granted a BRP and it will be sent under separate cover.

    The letter was of 3 A4 pages and included a lot of relevant rules and conditions for travel, living abroad, work and returning to the UK after a long absence or after 2 years.

    I can publish the whole document on a web site should anyone desire to read the full contents which I feel are of great value to anyone in Hans position.


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    Re: ILR - when to apply & when received.

    Post by Graham on 06/11/12, 10:46 am

    What is BOP ?

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    Post by makem on 06/11/12, 10:48 am

    Graham wrote:What is BOP ?

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    Typo BOP = BRP

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    Post by Graham on 06/11/12, 01:53 pm

    OK,

    BRP.

    Now I can see why you have abbreviated it.

    biometric residence permit

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    Post by makem on 06/11/12, 02:36 pm

    Han's Biometric Residence Card(BRP) arrived today, same day as notification of issue was received.
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    Post by handyal on 06/11/12, 07:46 pm

    Congratulation Eric and Han.

    You may have missed the point Eric, but by receiving her BRP she has effectively been granted ILR. The documents should follow shortly.

    You can go abroad now Surprised Han has her BRP to re-enter the UK.

    Will they still put an ILR vignette in her passport?
    Let me know!
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    Post by makem on 06/11/12, 08:14 pm

    handyal wrote:Congratulation Eric and Han.

    You may have missed the point Eric, but by receiving her BRP she has effectively been granted ILR. The documents should follow shortly.

    You can go abroad now Surprised Han has her BRP to re-enter the UK.

    Will they still put an ILR vignette in her passport?
    Let me know!

    Missed what point Alan?

    Han had a letter saying her BRP was on it's way.

    Same day she received her BRP

    We expect nothing else. You say documents, what documents?

    No, they will not put a vignette in her passport and they also they will not put a stamp. However I think the stamp they refer to is the one we get when we visit some countries a 'stamped' visa.

    I think they will still stamp her in and out. well maybe.
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    Post by davidmckendrick on 06/11/12, 08:32 pm

    We had to pay extra to get an NTL (No time Limit) vignette put in our son's new Chinese passport after UKBA lost the passport with the ILR vignette in it.
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    Post by luckysteve on 06/11/12, 09:41 pm

    Hi Han and Eric cheers

    Many Congratulations on your Fantastic news.

    We are both really pleased for you's.

    If you would be so kind and post the documents so we can view and get some indication as to what hopefully to expect for our future.

    Many Thanks Steve and Li Li Very Happy Smile
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    Post by Derek on 06/11/12, 09:54 pm

    Hi Han and Eric

    Tina and I wish you, Han all best wishes. Very Happy

    Regards

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    Post by makem on 06/11/12, 11:53 pm

    luckysteve wrote:Hi Han and Eric cheers

    Many Congratulations on your Fantastic news.

    We are both really pleased for you's.

    If you would be so kind and post the documents so we can view and get some indication as to what hopefully to expect for our future.

    Many Thanks Steve and Li Li Very Happy Smile

    The documents are to long to post here but I will make them available to download as soon as I fix Han's FOURTH laptop which I collect on Friday.

    I'm sure all the Chinese software does these poor old UK lappies in.

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    Post by GBA on 07/11/12, 07:10 am

    Congrats to you & Han Eric.

    You may have posted this info somewhere and I missed it, but is the BRP card similar in size to our drivers license / debit card?

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    Post by makem on 07/11/12, 09:10 am

    GBA wrote:Congrats to you & Han Eric.

    You may have posted this info somewhere and I missed it, but is the BRP card similar in size to our drivers license / debit card?

    GBA

    It is credit card size and double sided.

    Google it and you will see examples.

    If I get time I will publish Han's BRP but need to edit the personal stuff out. We are considering traveling this w/end so are a bit busy atm.
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    Post by makem on 07/11/12, 11:18 am

    I have published the documents now.

    If you PM me I will give you the url. I do this to avoid everyone in the world having access to the data.

    When you open the web page you will see:



    If you click on each file name you will open the file to view. If you right click and select 'save link as' you will save the file.

    The file named webfileidx.exe is the small program which allows these actions. You can download it also if you wish to publish your own files for easy access and I can help you use it if necessary.

    EDIT: Don't try downloading from this post - it does not work!
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    Post by handyal on 07/11/12, 03:32 pm

    makem wrote:
    handyal wrote:Congratulation Eric and Han.

    The documents should follow shortly.


    We expect nothing else. You say documents, what documents?


    The documents you submitted scratch
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    Post by makem on 07/11/12, 04:09 pm

    handyal wrote:
    makem wrote:
    handyal wrote:Congratulation Eric and Han.

    The documents should follow shortly.


    We expect nothing else. You say documents, what documents?


    The documents you submitted scratch

    AH HA!

    But we didn't submit any !!

    You need to follow threads Wink
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    Post by handyal on 07/11/12, 06:16 pm

    So how did the Checking Service check your application without any documents scratch

    It's now obvious that your documents were copied and the originals return at the point of application, however you failed to mention that in your previous posts, hence my previous question about the documents.

    Your the first one on the forum to apply under the new Biometric Card system, so we only know what you tell us. I gave up mind reading when Uri Geller proclaimed himself as a psychic. Smile
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    Post by makem on 07/11/12, 09:03 pm

    handyal wrote:So how did the Checking Service check your application without any documents scratch

    It's now obvious that your documents were copied and the originals return at the point of application, however you failed to mention that in your previous posts, hence my previous question about the documents.

    Your the first one on the forum to apply under the new Biometric Card system, so we only know what you tell us. I gave up mind reading when Uri Geller proclaimed himself as a psychic. Smile

    I seem to remember posting at some stage, that the 80 was well spent as they copy all the documents and return the originals.

    Also I posted this:

    Just checking through all the original documents returned by the checking serviceI find that they have supplied a copy of every page of the SET(M) form and another form which they supplied.

    The form is Appendix E from the UKBA, it is a photocopy titled Settlement Checking Service - Client Care Record.

    It names the applicant, the agents name and the Local Authority. It contains 14 Yes/No questions relating to the submission as a check that the submission is correct. The applicant must sign and date it.

    We did not get a copy of the form used to set out the dates of our documentary evidence.

    We were also given a copy of the Settlement Checking Service Application Receipt and the fee receipt (paid over the phone). The form includes information about status during application, a contact number and email address of the UKBA.

    I paid the Settlement fee by credit card for which they make no charge and I get a little back

    In addition the Checking service say what their service entails.

    Perhaps these things should be added to the sticky?

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